---start--- Atherosclerosis: kritchevsky question: NA was the investigator who first showed (1913) that feeding cholesterol to rabbits led to aortic deposition of lipid. he was a heavy smoker who, in reply to the suggestion that the habit was dangerous, said "no problem, it is all due to cholesterol." Based on current knowledge, how would you answer him? today we will get to hear about the disease, atherosclerosis, some dietary effects, and what is going on with it today. a few years ago, Science mag's cover had the words "EAT -- DIE" on it. but, you know, "don't eat, die anyhow" :) atherosclerosis isn't new...fatty deposits in a vessel wall were found in an egyptian mummy! in general, atherosclerosis is a disease of aging people, and until about the 1940s people weren't aging so much. in 1900, cancer and heart disease didn't make it into the top ten causes of death b/c no one lived long enough to get them. atherosclerosis is a variable combination of changes of the intima of arteries, consisting of focal accumulation of lipids and other stuff..." 10 AD: Celsus referred to heart attack 1500 AD: Vesalius described aortic aneurysms Fallopius described arterial ossification etc Marchand coined term "atherosclerosis" in 1904 b/c he thought it looked like oatmeal. This describes going from initial deposit to later hardening. In 1911 it was found in mummies....in 1912 they started feeding cholesterol to rabbits. in 1950 they learned to separate lipoproteins and we're still finding new ones today. in 1973 it was suggested it might not be just cholesterol (Benditt). americans are hysterical. the public thinks fat free = calorie free. but one snackwell has more calories than two oreos, and tastes worse! dietary cholesterol ---> blood cholesterol ---> aortic cholesterol is no longer the way we look at it. First you have endothelial injury - and what is the injury? dunno. then, if you have increased circulating LDL, you eventually may form atheroma. but there are many small proteins involved. you get injury, lipids, foam cells, which get under the intima into the muscle. these things get bigger and start to occlude the lumen - making it easier for a small clot to get stuck. another way to look at it - you have the artery - thrombogenesis and intimal damage due to oxygen radicals, smooth muscle hyperplasia, collagen synthesis, degeneration of elastin...you end up with a much narrower artery,making it very dangerous... happens mainly in areas of high turbulence, where blood speeds up. butyou can find a 40 yr old man who died of coronary and autopsy shows one plaque that killed him. or an 80 yr old guy hit by truck and you open him up and wonder how blood ever got through -- so it is luck and location. risk factors- diet, CO exposure, smoking cigarettes - all these thigns enter blood - different proteins, remnants from lipid breakdown, viral infection - all react with aortic tissue - form plaque. it's easy to study the blood part, but not as easy to study metabolism of the arterial wall. we're getting technology that will let us look at the growth and regression of the lesions, though - then you won't be guessing anymore. you feed it, and plaque will grow or shrink or stay the same. we know hyperlipidemia increases atherosclerosis so do diets high in saturated fat or peanut oil natural history of atherosclerosis: until you're about 10 yrs old, there is none, although in developed world it's really there starting from about age 2. then you get fatty streak visible by staining with fat seeking dye - in patients 10 to 20 yrs old. at about 20-30 yrs, you get plaques, then 30-45 you get calcification, complications, hemorrhage, ulceration, thrombosis. now, years ago, coronary (premature) would occur in 40 yr olds. now, we see it in 60 yr olds. so that is something, anyway. major risk factor combinations: epidemiologists did some comparisons of populations. us vs them. they looked at smoking, hypertension, and hypercholesterolemia. the framingham study sent out a questionnaire, (the gov't did this) to 13,000 people in the city, and said they'd do PE on them every 2 years for life, and found that major risk factors were smoking, high blood pressure, and high cholesterol. those with none of these factors had risk of 23/1000; that doubled in those who smoked. those with any two factors had risk icreased 5fold, and those with all three had 8x the risk. now, we've added maleness, obesity to the list of risk factors remember risk factors are not medical diagnoses - they are statistical diagnoses or more colloquially - odds. if you worry about having Tb you get a patch test and find out yes or now. but there is nothing like that for finding out if you will have a coronary. but they can tell you if your cholesterol is high. De Bakey said most of his patients had normal cholesterol, though. we keep looking for more risk factors. this is a lifestyle disease... it's not the kind of thing you can figure out quickly. the framingham study was good but the big problem was they only got 6500 replies to the 13,000 surveys. did respondents with predisposition to disease self-select themselves? things to know: atherosclerosis is a metabolic disease, not a side effect of bad nutrition. people have often compared it to rusting in a pipe. the difference is the pipe doesn't metabolize. cholesterol is an essential ingredient of the plaque, but may not be an initiator of the lesion the first part of thedeposit isn't normal cholesterol - it's oxdized form produced by free radicals most people with atherosclerosis have cholesterol levels in the normal range, while many with elevated cholesterol have no evidence of atherosclerosis. cholesterol is a component of every cell in your body.it is probably next to water and salt the most ubiquitous thing in yoru body. most of it is in your brain- so "fathead" is descriptive :) THE NEXT two major sources are muscle and fat. the arteries don't have much. cholesterol in the liver is converted to bile acids, without which you could not digest fat. most cholesterol in metabolic sphere is converted into bile acids. it's also made into pregnenolone and sent to gonad to make sex hormones or adrenal cortex to make corticosteroids. so it is needed for life, needed for cell structure (membrane stability). it's the all american compound - leads to life, liberty,and pursuit of happiness :) cholesterol hypothesis, or lipid hypothesis, was borne from framingham data. they looked at chol.level, and number of events. the hypothesis said if you lowered cholesterol from A to B you should lower risk from X to Y - and this policy has driven the health programs of the NIH and others. now, if you've ever seen normal blood serum, you know it is pale yellow and clear. but it contains a lot of fat - you just can't see it b/c it is suspended as an emulsion, tied to proteins called lipoproteins. there are many lipoproteins. using ultracentrifugation, you can float it - lipids are lighter than water. the chylomicron is the largest particle and is mostly triglyceride. maybe 5% cholesterol. if you give blood, they usually tell you not to eat first b/cfor a few hours after your meal you have chylomicrons in your blood and they are fatty molecules. all these react with tissue lipases to spit out triglycerides which are broken into FAs for fuel. so it gets smaller - VLDL, IDL - intermediate density - then LDL - the LDL is the bad stuff. the amount of cholesterol in your LDL is the problem. then you have HDL which are 50% protein, and these are the "good cholesterol" that are protective. the HDL doesn't change much,it's the LDL that does. in men, there is more LDL - women have a higher HDL:LDL ratio, and this then changes after menopause to be more like men. buoyant LDL vs dense LDL - you can separate LDLs into 6 or 8 classes. the little LDL is what gets into your artery. the buoyant stuff doesn't. so you have good bad cholesterol and bad bad cholesterol. also there is lipoprotein A, which looks like LDL with one extra protein.that protein interferes with fibrinolysis,preventing clot breakdown. many people think that level of lipoprotein A is a better indicator of risk than the other things. so you should look for LPa whch is hard to measure. LDL only have lipoprotein B, and HDL have AI, AII, C and E. many people think you should measure A to B ratio instead of HDL to LDL ratio. LDL send cholesterol to liver and peripheral cells, and HDL is mostly protein. factors affecting serum lipids: lab factors - method, reliability, drugs, serum vs plasma. some people sent a sample of fake serum to about 100 clinical labs and got 100 answers. a few years ago someone advertised low cholesterol eggs, and USDA bought 1500 eggs, and analyzed them - to do that they needed a lab to do it right - so they made a cholesterol unknown, which was cholesterol dissolved in fat, 800mg/100 gm fat. they sent it to 3 prominent labs - one found 1200, one found 800, one found 400. so test ain'tthat great! drinking, smoking, and exercising also affect HDL. moderate drinking is good. Dr. K advises running from bar to bar to get exercise in too. age, sex, personality are important. really important is the season - your cholesterol varies by season!it increases in sept and nov and dec through march. it is lowest in summer. AHLMAC committee - they turn over four people a year - 12 person committee- dr k is on it. when he joined it, the chairman asked him if there was anything he wanted to know and he asked about cholesterol fluctuation. you have a study with 20 guys, and you take blood weekly, and group average doesn't change,but individual variation is huge. he asked how much individual variation in choleseterol do you see, and they said none. he said bullshit. six months later they told him they rechecked,and in every 14 clinics, it was high in january and low in july. they claimed it was due to christmas. he said "even in the jerusalem clinic?" so then NIH did a study - a good one - looking at 10 american lipid research clinics - and found that yes, it varies with season for some reason. total cholesterol and LDL vary inversely to length of day. also in animals (who do not celebrate christmas) so it is important to kn HDL high in women, russians, blacks (really high in black russian women) and low in men,americans, whites.... HDL is the one that does't change much. LDL is the one that changes. we think the apoprotein makes a difference. apoE is found in VLDL. if you are E2 type, atherosclerosis is low, and drugs work easily. if you are E3/E4 or E3 E3, you have lesions evenwith normal cholesterol, and drugs do not work well anyway. if you have a lot of receptors, you have low blood cholesterol. if you have few receptors, cholesterol has to stay in your blood, right? smaller, denser particles are more susceptible to oxidation than bigger ones. low cholesterol isn't good either. you want moderation- maybe around 180-210. not lower than that. then, something else happens. some guy did a study - he looked at HCT plus 1/10 of cholesterol level - so say 45 + 20 = 65. if this number was low, these people would die in 6-8 mos no matter how they said they felt. no one ever followed it up. stress and cholesterol levels - during exams, med students had high cholesterol. also during tax season, accountants had high cholesterol. ex: group of 37 - before exams, 191 mg/dl. during exams, 235 mg/dl group of 13 - 190 before, 247 during. this is interesting. psychological factors were studied in Israel - at the port of Haifa, they interviewed the white collar guys...those with work problems had higher amount of coronary disease. those with work and personal problems had a MUCH higher amount of disease. a study at the dupont company some years back found that most of heart disease was in men who have responsibility with no authority. monkey study in monkeys either stressed or unstressed found much less intimal cholesterol deposition in unstressed monkeys. they found that the fattest alpha males had least deposition. then they found that the severely stressed animals had bigger deposits. they did a study at the pentagon - where there is the largest group of highly stressed middle aged american men in the world. they did cholesterol tests q 2 mos on these guys and found huge fluctuations. avg level of fluctuation was 25%. a fluctuation of 50% or more was associated with occurence of a coronary. animal studies: rabbit atherosclerosis - historically, the rabbit is animal of choice for study,only b/c it was first studied. criticisms of rabbit study - rabbit is a herbivore not designed to handle cholesterol - if you discuss cholesterol around rabbits his cholesterol goes up. but you can easily induce atherosclerosis. saturated fat is worse than unsaturated fat. but cholesterol you eat isn'tthe problem.the fat and protein you eat is what raises your blood cholesterol. [he is officially out of time now...] chicken is no longer used as a model. but estrogen, low protein, and thiouracil will cause atherosclerosis in the chicken. rat atherosclerosis - to cause it,you have to do so much bad stuff to it that it isn't worth it. rats have a huge capacity for keeping serum cholesterol stable. so it's very difficult to induce atherosclerosis without removing parts of the rat....or creating other deficiencies...so studying the rats isn't that useful. [i'm not writing stuff down about the rats...] other rodents are difficult to study this in,too. [i'm also not writing stuff down about these rodents b/c it doesn't seem germane to the question at hand....] dog atherosclerosis - cholesterol and thiouracil or semisynthetic diet plus cholesterol can produce lesions. dogs fed table scraps have cholesterol at 265. adding cooking oil, coconut oil, will drive the level up. if owner is fat, dog is often fat, too. lesions in cats are hard to produce. pig - great model- much like people (or vice versa...). difficulty - pigs are large and difficult to handle, and very expensive to study. we'd like to study monkeys too,but they again - not all are the same. Cebus monkeys get lesions from high fat/high cholesterol diets over two years...but looking at various species, with similar cholesterol levels, there are varying amounts of atherosclerosis. [yada yada carbs, monkeys, etc] ---break--- fat facts: fat is the most efficient energy source there is a lower limit below which menstruation and conception do not occur lipids are important in structure and function of cell membranes nerves have lipids in their structure lipids insulate the body and protect important body organs lipids provide EFAs, carry fat soluble vitamins, andmore. FA -> metabolic fuel, transport FA derivaties -> FA storage, transport,membranes etc. in 1950 a study was done- [he says that many studies are "unpublished observations..."]. When Ike Eisenhower had his heart attack,that's when people got excited about cholesterol...so this study was done, andthey segregated 40 men from the group. 10 w/lowest cholesterol, 10 w/highest, 10 who ate most chol, 10 who ate least. then 40 controls. men who had coronaries had higher cholesterol in blood than controls. but in no case did it have anything to do with cholesterol intake. those with highest intake of cholesterol had lower chlesterol levels than those who ate the least cholesterol. so there are many steps on the pathway to consider. PR, honolulu, and framingham populations were studied - coronary rate and diet were checked. in PR 1900 w/o coronary, 286 who had coronary honolulu: 7000 w/o and 264 with framingham 780 w/o, 79 with what were factors? all the guys with coronaries ate fewer calories than the guys w/o them. the guys with them ate more carbs and/or complex carbs (fiber) and drank less alcohol. cholesterol and fat intake were the same in every pair. these data show that possibly other factors exist that make the difference -but this wasn't followed up. most food has the same amt of cholesterol. egg, stick of butter has a lot. shrimp have a lot compared to other meats. but they are included in low fat diets b/c they have little fat. big source of cholesterol is really the egg- though not much is absorbed, so. ignatawski's summary: newborn rabbits fed milk and egg yolk do not grow as well as controls, and die w/in four mos. animal diet leads to anemia rabbits fed animal diets had cirrhosis, nephritis, atherosclerosis, kidney hypertrophy unfortunately, ignatawski wasn't in charge. data show study of 6 men with diets w/diff amts of protein, carb,fat - all using vegetable protein. normal diet - cholesterol about 272. using only veg fat sources, cholesterol went down. when returned to regular diet, it wentback up. study in italy with soy protein- [more about rabbits... one to one ratio of animal to vegetable fats...something i didn't catch.] fiber hypothesis says: diets rich in foods containing plant cell walls are protective against "western diseases" and diet poor in plant cell walls are possibly causative.but, a high fiber diet isn't a low fiber diet to which you have added fiber. different types of fiber - brans = insoluble, fruit/veg = soluble fiber gums delay gastric emptying bran increases transit time gums reduce blood cholesterol, control glycemia, and promote fermentatoin so do fruits, veggies, legumes. pectin is a gum present in many fruits. bran doesn't really do these things. fiber in hyperlipidemia study - most change came about in men fed oat bran, which contains a gum. to get 10 gm of dietary fiber, one must eat a pound of white bread, half a pound of frozen brocolli, over a pound of apples or oranges... another good stat - as wine consumption goes up, risk of heart disease goes down. this is the "french paradox." french eat more meat than any other europeans and have the lowest risk of heart disease. we do not know why. maybe lifestyle? french do not eat standing up, they relax and eat three meals a day. vitamin c also produces a similar curve. obesity promotes hypertension which promotes atherosclerosis niacin - nicotinic acid - has a few drawbacks, namely flushing and itching in some people and liver problems in other people - and no derivative works - but it helps to slow progression of atherosclerosis CHD syndrome: HDL low, triglycerides high, glucose high, insulin high, and you are fat. these people have increased risk of heart disease and some people think it is assicated with hyperinsulinemia. proposed role: genes and environment get together and cause insulin resistance, hyperinsulinemia, glucose intolerance,increased triglycerides, decrased HDL, increased BP, all this stuff gets connected to CHD. heart disease and cancer both may be related to insulin resistance, actually. what does initial damage to endothelium?? 1. hyperhomocysteinemia - when making methionine or cysteine you add a methyl group and get a homocysteine, but normally continues to cysteine. but in some people you keep the homocysteine andit gets together with LDL and goes into the artery and causes a problem. this was suggested by some guy a while ago....he got fired by Harvard for publishing this suggestion. but today, we see that yes, this is true, they found it in the framingham study. so if they'd believed him 30 yrs ago, we'd be ahead by now. 2. CMV- may cause some tissue damage that predisposes to atherosclerosis 3. respiratory chlamydia - c.pneumoniae - first seen about 5 yrs ago by someone doign routine serology - all these heart dz patients had c.pneumonia. this might really be something. mareck's disease in chickens predisposes them to it, too. good news- lifespan is increasing. lots of people like to talk about paleolithic diet - but those people only lived to be 15 so of course they didn't get heart disease and cancer! in PA there is a high death rate from heart disease on the map from 1961 most of it on east coast, some in NV, then little in the midwest. in 1986, midwest is still ok, east coast is worse...but what was considered high is lower than what was considered low before. so we are doing better overall. since 1979 HD rates down 26% b/w 1980 and 1992 total deaths in us down 14% ---end----