---start---- foundations 11/10/98 Personal Finance and Investment Strategies: a low-budget multimedia presentation :) This session deals more deeply with personal financial strategies - this is how you will make your budget. This is going to be a very depressing experience. Especially if you are >80,000 in debt. If you are over 120,000 in debt, you will be really really really depressed. starting on p 70 of notes Making money, paying bills: the financial side of veterinary medicine Government service (non military): USDA: APHIS, FSIS, Extension, other misc Other - EPA, NASA, Smithsonian, Nat'l marine fishing service Dept of Health and Human Services: FDA, NIH, CDC, other Dept of Interior contact number for these people is in the notes. Pay and benefits for gov't non military vets: < 1 yr out of school: GS-9 step 1: $30,257/yr > 1 yr out or new grad top 25% of class GS-11: $36,609 Year 5 GS12 step 5 $49,278 phenomenal benefit packages with lots of vacation and holidays. Military service: salaries starting around 40k, after 5 years about 50k, and base pay of 12,488 isn't taxable. huge benefits. Corporate/industrial service: pet food companies, pharmaceutic companies, biologic mfrs. look for ads in JAVMA. two career tracks: scientific or sales/marketing/tech services. pay/benefits for corporate vets - vary widely: new grads $33-40,000 up to $65,000/yr - by year five if tech services manager position is held, can make 50-80k/yr. most industry positions in the sales/marketing/tech side only want people with 3-5 yrs private practice experience, and then you can start at about 50-60k/yr. benefits highly variable. these jobs require immense amounts of work. over five years probably make the most money in these jobs. benefits not quite as good as gov't and military, unless you get stock options :). Pfizer, Merck, Merieux employees have cleaned up that way. Academics, advanced study: about 2700 faculty in the 27 US vet school about 1500 additional interns/residents clinical side: internship, residence, boards, assistant prof, associate prof, full prof, dept head, ass't dean, dean (most unrewarding position). also nonclinical side. problem with academic side is salary - interns make under 20,000; residents make 20 until sr resident then 25. full prof up to 86k. benefits are good - worth about 32% of salary. so if salary 50k, really 65k with benefits. Private practice:about 77% go into private practice, with 18% into advanced study. find jobs in JAVMA, newsletters, etc. avg starting salary, new grads: $34,468 as per JAVMA. penn - $42-45,000 reported. read JAVMA "economic notes" so, you plateau at about 50k-60k after 5 yrs as an associate. benefit possibilities are remarkably variable. what are benefits worth? health/disability/life insurance p 81: assume: 25 yr old single DVM (well, that's not me); AVMA group insurance; first year, area 1: $1412/yr. after that, most people fall into areas 5 or 6 where rates are $2100/yr higher. major medical: Plan C - $500 deductible, 80-20 coinsurance; higher deductible has lower premium. premium also depends on age and health status. AVMA program is really probably the best for new grads. longterm disability: plan 2: 30 day waiting period - $1000 monthly benefit - cost $278. AVMA rep now speaking: phone 215 233 9233 email: ls128@juno.com enroll before graduation! plus you need to be SCAVMA member! the underwriter is New York Life. you get a big discount at graduation and the opportunity to defer payment for a year at 4% and then pay in installments. they also offer a waiver of pre-existing conditions if you enroll at graduation. even maternity, diabetes, anything. most employers will pay for this plan, and the plan belongs to you so if you move jobs it's ok, you still get the coverage. your disability coverage premium will never change, btw. if you don't know what you'll do you can always sign up for the plan, and then cancel it. also AVMA will defer start of coverage til 9/1 when the Penn plan ends. life insurance - $100,000 minimum, nonsmoker - for noneducational debt - about $75/yr. this is cheap. but you don't need life insurance for student loans. if you die, the loans go away. if you're disabled, the loans do not go away. that debt is yours to keep. continuing education benefit varies widely - usually $350/yr. cost for a national meeting usually about $1250. this is really important. Dues, license, fees - AVMA, state VMA, local VMA - $0-500. most associations are free first year out, then they cost. vet license 100-300 bucks DEA reg about $70 total beneft - $170-900 professional liability insurance: AVMA PLIT policy - min 100,000/300,000 - about $188. if employer has AVMA insurance, you need to have your own policy as well. employer should pay. Emergency duty pay: two common plans: this may be how you balance your budget. standard has been $30 per call - flat rate per call is still very common. if 3 vets share weeknights so you're on call 2x/week, avg 1 call every other shift, so you make 1320 doing that. better system - percentage based: you make 50% of income generated by call. variations exist - can be part of salary, can get nothing b/c it's referred to local emergency clinic, can get 75-100% of emergency exam fee assuming there is a separate emergency fee; can get 35-50% of emergency, exam, diagnostic, and treatment fees. that's a good plan for you. or on call compensation - $30/weeknight, $100 weekend Productivity Pay: this isn't a benefit so much as a negotiation process. but you must count it as a benefit b/c of how you make your budget. this is "profit sharing." there are many formulas. see p 86. there are two standard plans: percent of productivity above base salary of $35,000/yr (20% of income generated), plus employee receives 10% of income generated and paid by clients over $175,000/yr so say you generate 200,000 base is 35,000 you get 10% of 25,000 so that's an extra 2500. or, straight % of productivity: straight commission - he's not a fan of this. you shoudl have a safety net. exmaple: 20% of income produced, plus benefits. so if you produce 200,000 you make 40k. in specialists you can make 32-35% of productivity (behavior), dermatologist 30-35%, emergency practice usually 28-30%. section C - associate compensation options p 88 - gives you a rundown of this stuff. those not taking law and ethics should look at this. Calculating your Budget!!! Your economic needs: step one - to evaluate and job offer and to make a budget, you must know what your needs will be. cost of living - example rent: 700/mo utilities: 120/mo insurance: 0 - paid by employer necessities like food, clothes, pet food: 390/mo entertainment and lifestyle stuff like dinners out, vacation, gifts: 220/mo car expenses: loan payment 250/mo, ins 70/mo, maintenance stuff 120 misc: 80/mo total for step one: 1950 x 12 = $23,400 what's the annual cost of a 45 minute commute? it's high. more mileage on car. consider that when thinking about job offers! MSU website: http://cvm.msu.edu/~judy this is the "salary relocator" step 2: debt management: for debt of $87,678 10 year payout at 8% interest monthly payment about 1,063 x 12 = 12,751 debt is climbing WAY faster than salary, btw. debt at penn - in 1991 4 students owed >100000. now we have 25 with >100,000, and 26 with >120,000. (hmm. that payment sounds high to me...) step 3 - wealth accumulation: save 100/mo - build this into your budget. get a bartending job or whatever. this is because you need a cushion. step 4 - federal taxes - 1998: standard deduction - single $4250, married $7100 exemption/dependent - single 2700, married 5400 no tax on first - single $6950, married 12,500 calculating taxable income: example: total sample income nat'l avg: $34,468 minus the std deduction of 4250 minus exemption of 2700 etc. step 5 calculating your taxes: single people 1998: brackets 15%, 28%, 31% 1 is up to 25,350, then up to 61,400, then up to 128,100 for married - first 42,350 then 102,300, then 155,950 step 8 final verdict - but if you own a home, you have itemized deductions, insurance, property taxes. this only works if you do not own a home. i'm not writing this down then, since we own a home. see p 97. look at "total fixed and variable household expenses" aka TFVHE. there is a chart with multiplier for tax purposes to explain the gross income you need to meet those costs. if TFVHE is 35000, you need 49350. most budgets work out to about 45k in income. itemizing taxes - subtract out std deduction and exemption and taxes...blah blah. in 1950 max soc.security tax was $45. in 1980 it was about 1500...now, its over $4000. if you're an independent contractor (relief vet) you pay double those figures, by the way. ---break--- if you are making a budget and you do not want to share your personal financial information with him, explain that you know how and you don't have to do it. if you are married and you own a home there is no formula. each home has different values, etc. you do get big tax savings, though. when there are two of you, you can turn in a joint budget. if you're married and you do not know what your spouse's income really is...or you are engaged and you do not know...figure out a family budget, and pick a number - say you want to take care of 1/3 of all expenses. then say how much is that. so during an interview, ask the employer: what are your thoughts about compensation? the employer will say to you "how much money do you need?" if you do not know that, you're screwed. there is a manual budget in the handout for you to fill out. now, if you do own a house, and you can't use the multiplier - well, dunno. combined income for married people in handout - if it is >$75,000 just use the progression... another method of calculating budgets: Pre-tax income calculator: in computer lab there is his program from Mich State. you can d/l this onto a diskette as a .zip file. can d/l off web, also. taxes - state = 2.5% for PA; local philadelphia = 4.4% if you have an apartment as a part of your salary, you have to make sure this is in your contract as a condition of employment, so that it is tax deductible, otherwise it is taxable income. the budget URL is in the handout. can d/l of the Mich State website. moving on. comparing jobs to each other on p 99 of handout: here we compare two jobs - one has great benefits, the other has crappy benefits. the one with benefits has a lower base pay. see handout for details. p 102 - managing debt while accumulating wealth reasons for financial failure: -procrastination -failure to establish a goal -ignorance about money -failure to learn and to apply our tax laws -wrong life insurance (buy term life when you are young) -failure to develop a winning mentality absolute keys to establishing wealth: pay yourself first consistently work toward goal start now compounding have a monthly savings goal invest money figure return on investment action plan for students with high levels of debt - do not borrow "extra." sometimes it is worth it to consolidate loans. live cheaply. some people have to be very creative. saving while paying debt - assume two people both owe 54000. A pays 651/mo on loan and pays into savings each month B is afraid s/he can't get married with so much debt in tow, so B pays down debt with all extra money instead of saving. by year 5: A has saved 13,800, had a 1,786 ROI (return on investment), so is still 16515 in hole (has net worth of -$16515, has savings of 15000+ - he took slide down too fast. realize - law passed last year, that allows for credit for tuition - 1500 tax credit toward tuition, plus the HOPE educational deduction you also get a credit up to 1500 for the interest on student loans. B - debt elimination only no savings: this person has the same net worth wbut no savings. uh oh. A had loan balance of 32000. compare these: after 5 yrs, A has 32k in debt, 15.5k in savings B has 16.2k in debt, no savings both have opportunity to buy into practice for 100k A is able to borrow 85% of that from bank, to which she adds her 15k savings. A makes enough as partner to pay off that 85k loan. seller is comfortable b/c A is risking own money B: bank will lend 85% b/c of great credit and little debt, but wants 15% down payment. B has to find 15k. bank isn't worried about 651/mo payment on school debt by A understanding the value of money - if inflation is zero, is the value of 100 greater today or in a year? today, because you can earn interest on it. if your dad has 10k for you to give you in 5 years, it is worth 10k. but if dad gives you 10k today, you can invest it and it's worth more when you get it. if you invest it at 8.5%, in 5 yrs you have 15k. that's without paying taxes. last story - in 1982 when daughter was 6 yrs old, their friend mathilda - an actress in NYC with a cat named harriet - came to visit and asked what htey were doing to plan for college for their daughter. she told them they had to start saving for her education, and sent her 10 shares of Disney - worth $550. next year, sent her 10 shares of AT&T....well, now that 10 shares of disney is 510 shares of disney and it's at 29.5 - 15,300!! wow. ----end----