---start---- anesth 4/20 Ewing the two lectures today have nothing to do with each other. first,we'll discuss the signs of anesthesia and what if you misinterpret them? second, we'll discuss epidural analgesia why are we using all these hoses and bags and so forth Dr E remarks that our class seems unusually lively. perhaps because she called Omar the "presidente" Goals of general anesthesia we want to acheive a state of unconsciousness with no response to or perception of noxious stimuli. either an animal is anesthetized or not. anesthesia is a controllable, reversible state which involves suppression of muscular, and ANS activity. anesthesia may be light or deep - but we already know that anesthesia is an off or on phenomenon, so that is kind of weird. we hope general anesthesia is reversible and controllable. suppression of muscular and ANS activity are separate from anesthesia, but generally accompany it. there is a chart in the handout - "Depth - clinically relevant" as you go left to right on chart, things get harder to get rid of. somatic response to pain is easy to wipe out. a little harder to get rid of movement. still harder to get rid of autonomic function - breathing can be wiped out by muscle relaxants used on humans during abdominal surgery. other autonomic things, as you apply more and more anesthetic, hemodynamic responsees (BP, HR), sudomotor responses (sweating), or hormonal responses (stress response) may be wiped out. so you may give enough anesthetic that there is no BP change in response to stimulus, but there is still sweating. hardest to get rid of is the stress resposne. left to right: pain, movement (both somatic), BP/HR, sweating, stress response(autonomic) anesthetic depth: the undefinable - dr klide. there is no unifying definition. there are two types of theories - purists have one kidn of thinking, and others think anesthesia is a multisite phenomenon based on agent specific actions on lipids,membranes, receptors, etc. see handout on anesthetic depth. another reason there is no definition is because of the huge number of drugs used. often we use inhalants, opioids, and IV agents plus local agents. these all exhibit dose/response relationships. sometimes all or none, or can be continuous. complications occur. other patient specific factors play a role - age, disease, temperature, individual variation. depth of anesthesia is a pharmacodynamic event. relation b/w dose and plasma concentration is pharmacokinetic. relation b/w plasma concentration and patient response is pharmacodynamic. generally, the higher the dose, the more of an effect it has. clinically relevant effects: decreased afferent input - we want this (loss of consciousness is part of this) decreased efferent input - loss of motor, autonomic responses - we want some of this. decrased cardiovascular, respiratory and GI function commonly occurs, some of which is good and some of which sucks. apnea and cardiac arrest are bad extremes. we want to predict/avoid negative outcomes while providing benefits. concepts of anesthetic depth (the undefinable) clinical use of term accounts for diversity of effects adn clinical needs. scientific uses of the term - applies to lab situations only, where stimulus is possibly realistic but single, predictable, evoking specific repeatable response. MAC is defined this way. pain threshold studies are another threshold experiment, but patients are usually awake to say "cut that out." scientific definitions are required for us to figure out how things work but not good clinically b/c we use multiple agents by multiple routes, IV, IM, transmucosal, transdermal. patient factors and species differences all limit scientific definitions in clinical settings. you may understand how to anesthetize a horse well, but not a ruminant. so there is art and science to this. before we had such diversity and used mainly ether, Guedel in 1937 created this scheme: this is also applicable to other inhalants, some injectables. movement isn't a great clinical predictor to use to assess anesthesia. there is more interest in using ocular and cardiopulmonary signs which are useful in most spp. unidirectional scheme of anesthetic depth (Guedel's scheme) stage I - voluntary excitement stage II: involuntary excitement stage III: surgical anesthesia stage IV: medullary paralysis I: subjective in humans, not well defined in animals. humans start getting disoriented while they have some degree of analgesia. conscious, but disoriented. ends with unconsciousness. pupils are normal in every way. reduced senses. II involuntary excitment - starts with loss of consciousness, marked by delirium, loss of coordination, movement, struggling, vocalizing, intact laryngeal reflexes, nystagmus (important in horses), chewing,s wallowing in ruminants, vomition may occur in dogs/cats, also irregular respiration, breath holding. stage III: surgical anesthesia - depression of reflexes plane one: struggling stops, light anesthsia, larynx is variably reactive, pupils constricted but responsive. eye rotates to species specific eccentric position, nystagmus and lacrimation present, regular respiration with ic muscles and diaphragm, may be responsive to noxious stimuli. jaw tone differentially present in cats, small carnivores. plane two: moderate anesthesia: eyes stay eccentric except with some agents like metofane. respiration shallow, intercostals check out before diaphragm, HR, BP maintained, variable abbdominal relaxation, marked in cats. lacrimation/salivation tail off. still autonomic responses to noxious stimuli plane three: deep anesthesia,. rarely required. fixed central eye, pupil dilated and moderate. intercostals lag behind diaphragm, abd muscles relaxed. loss of most reflexes except vagal which is hard to wipe out. plane four: overdose: dilated, unresponsive, central pupil. diaphgragmatic shallow breathing, tracheal tug, cardiovascular depression is severe, ends in apnea. stage IV: moribund. avoid at all costs. danger will robinson, danger. apnea is first sign, then circulatory collapse and cardiac arrest occur. then animal is no longer anesthetized, it is dead. assessment of depth: EEG - spontaneous electroencephalogram. summed up meausre of what is going on. surface phenomenon paced by thalamic nuclei. there are correlates relative to depth of anesthesia. cerebral blood flow correlates with EEG. when patient is unresponsive you can get info about cerebral function wtih EEG. patient side monitoring is now possible- EEG machines are no longer humongous behemoths. however new equipment is expensive and interpretation is difficult. bispectral EEG analysis is one of the new ways this is going. noninvasive, continuous. helpful for us? dunno yet. Evoked responses - stimulate patient and look for electrophysiologic response. usually a nerve, sometimes sound - looks at functional pathway integrity. mostly these are used for nonanesthetized patients. deaf dalmations are tested this way, electroretinograms are used too. auditory clicks so far are best correlated with anesthetic depths, visual light flashes also used. nnot sure of application to vet med. lower esophageal contractility - used in humans b/c reticular formation innervates lower third of esophagus - probably not applicable to vet med, very agent specific. cataleptic anesthesia: not like above. not unidirectional "give a little, give more, oops, dead" type. ketamine, teletamine, phencyclidine (no longer available at all) these are the dissociative anesthetics - humans will report that they feel things but it doesn't bother them at all. induce a cataleptoid state - a physical state of eyes open, slow nystagmus, wakeful but noncommunicative, some hypertonus, some purposeful movement occurs but has nothing to do with stimulation, there is forgetfulness,a nd surface analgesia (not visceral). may be marked emergence delirium. nightmares may occur for some time. dissociatives are NMDA receptor antagonists - they bind the PCP site in the ion chnanel there, mediating many things (see handout). unlike traditional anesthetics, these drugs cause marked CNS activation and a lot of EEG activity is seen. you have to get over the idea of CNS depression. loss of righting reflex isn't equivalent to anesthesia with these drugs. patient may be aware but immobile fig three in notes: multidirectional anesthetic depth: stage I: excitement, disorientation stage IIa: intermittent hallucinations stage IIb: continuous and more intense - useful stage stage IIC: cataleptoid (myoclonus) - useful - loss of righting reflex - may progress to tonic clonic seizures which would be bad stage III: progressive EEG depression - useful stage stage IV: flat EEG (isoelectric) - bad. not useful. complications - this isn't an easy topic to get hold of. diversity! species, drugs, circumstances, body part, combinations of drugs, there is no single method! don't give up though. as neurophysiology evolves and toys get fancier and we understand more on a molecular level, we get more useful monitoring techniques. we think about the brain but the cord is also very involved. state of anesthesia is not all supraspinal! many sites in neuraxis are involved, there is a lot of agent and site specificity to this. there is no single mechanism to explain depth of anesthesia but there are some things that we can use. "in the slow float of differing light and deep, No! there is nothing! in the whole and all, nothing that's quite your own. yet this is you." - Ezra Pound ---break--- epidural analgesia this is a great topic. epidural analgesia is the lecture where you start to wonder when you get to touch an actual animal instead of sitting in this lecture hall. this is about relief of pain and suffering. the techniques used are easy. piece of cake. fun to do. the details on what goes where and how long it lasts kind of follow in the third year elective so don't worry about that now. the theory behind this is very complicated. probably out at NBC you'll see - it takes years to get a surgery faculty to trust you enough to try these things. one bad experience sets the whole thing back, the theory has to be understood, you need a missionary to explain it and convert people over. EA as currently done provides partial or complete sensory loss to various structures, usually caudal to the umbilicus but not always. EAs may be given as single dose, multiple dose, or continuous infusion (usually by catheter which is easy to put in, cheap, and safe. EA can be an adjunct to GA, or may replace GA. it's not either or all the time. EA may be indicated to control things unrelated to surgery - pain, lymphangitis for example - soft tissue inflammation of hind legs causing severe pain in a horse. last week they had a hereford heifer that aborted and got cystitis - a cow that starts straining will die or turn her whole body inside out. she everted her bladder into her urethra, tore her perineum, everted part of her rectum,was really broken down. she kept straining. surgical correction didn't stop her from straining, so dr donawick asked her to look at it. mid-administration of the epidural, she stopped straining and was better. there is mythology about epidural techniques, esp about morphine in large animals. it needs to be broken down. techniques - an epidural catheter cna be placed in the field, safely and cost effectively. these things are all cost effective, easy to learn. and really cool - it may be the best quality, longest lasting pain control there is. one or more agents may be placed in epidural space at various locations. here is the catch- to make informed and effective choices you have to understand your ologies. neuroanatomy and physiology, pharmacology, species variability, potential complication. history: first EA used was cocaine in 1900. many early researchers ruined their lives with this. 1905- procaine 1940s - lidocaine 1950s - mepivicaine 1960s- bupivicaine aka Marcaine 1970s- opioid and alpha2 receptors the amide type is most commonly used - bupivicaine new drug - neuropin, ropivicaine - different type - lots of promise. another landmark discovery - in mid 70s, they found opioid and alpha2 receptors in the dorsal horn of the spinal cord. really revolutionized theories of pain processing. this led to clinical use of epidural use of opioids and alpha2 agents. epidural = peridural = extradural --> your drug is outside, on top of, the dura mater of spinal column an epidural can be cranial or caudal to the sacrum, and is called cranial or caudal spinal = subarachnoid = intrathecal --> "true spinal" this means your drug is in the CSF, beneath the arachnoid mater. when you read anesthesia texts, you will see the term "spinal anesthesia" sometimes used to refer to both types of analgesic techniques. most often, in large animals, injection is made caudal to the sacrum, sacrococcygeal or intracoccygeal depending on age and spp. we're doing more catheters at lumbosacral space now, though. this is the traditional way though - caudal to sacrum. in small animals, commonest spot is lumbosacral space. anatomic structures in handout - check it out. review them. slide: cross section of spine. the ligamentum flavum/interarcuate ligament ends at the space - going through it may produce a pop. then you are in epidural space - which isn't really a space, because there is fat, blood vessels, and stuff in there. may be negative pressure, atmospheric pressure, or positive pressure in there. beneath that is arachnoid mater and dura. CSF is beneath that, then there is the pia mater, then cord. where dura wraps around - they call it "dural cuffs" - there is facilitated diffusion of local anesthetics there. if you remember - you have afferent sensory nerves coming in dorsal horn, motor and autonomic fibers from ventral horn; in TL spine you have sympathetic ganglia alongside - autonomic component is added into spinal nerves here. termination of cord: dogs: L6-L7 (dural sac L7-S2) cats: one segment caudal LA spp: mid sacrum at lumbosacral space, there is no cord in dogs. you put your needle in there and it can't hit the cord. in cats, you can. in puppies, you can too. in large animals, the cord ends under the sacrum. that makes it easier to remember, and means you are not over cauda equina at the lumbosacral space. this is why they often go caudal to the sacrum. choice of injection site: base this on area of intended blockade, what your agent is, how good your restraint is, and if you are using a catheter. in large animals we are often trying to desensitize perineum, external genitalia, part of vagina, and tail. used in urogenital surgery etc - doesn't affect legs. in pigs, small ruminants - can do more of a blockade like in small animals, blocking everything caudal to L1. also agent specificity- pharmacology of the agent is a factor. if you don't have good restraint, do not do this! if patient is standing, recumbent, awake, sedated - think about these factors too. also consider if placing catheter or doing direct injection. gnerally, you want to preserve motor function in large animals at all costs. horses freak out of they have limb weakness without sedation. adult cows may be ok if in recumbency but still this isn't advisable. if they go down, they fall ungracefully, break bones, etc. avoid. small ruminants can be managed better with loss of motor function. cranial distribution, "spread ahead" of local anesthetics causes loss of motor function. opioids and alpha2 agents don't do this - they spare motor function. injection site is generally caudal to sacrum regardles sof type of drug, usually only affects sacral nerves, this site is less risky- and the exception is pigs - lumbosacral is the only option in pigs pharmacology - local anesthetics- inhibition of inward sodium current. inhibition of other ion currents. interaction with adenylate cyclase, 2nd messengers, phospholipases, etc. tissue and neuron specific. we do not know how exactly they interact with sodium channels. go back to that diagram - if you do a lumbosacral injection of local anesth in a cat, and it falls down, because you have blocked motor fibers to hind legs - do not forget about autonomic components you have also wiped out - things like blood vessel innervation. if you do this and you give too much drug or give it too fast, and you wipe out enough of these sympathetic things, you can wipe out vascular tone. splanchnic circulation can vasodilate and whole blood volume can go in there. you cause cardiovascular collapse, total loss of venous return. s if you give too much too quickly of lidocaine into lumbosacral space, you will cause this. if you give it too far cranially, in the Cspine, you can compromise intercostal function, but that isn't going to happen here. cardiovascular collapse is more dangerous here. remember that. fiber size and function - spinal nerves a fibers are somatic nerves. a alpha are big, fast, motor nerves thick, heavily myelinated a betas are muscle, touch, pressure receptors a gamma - muscle spindle receptors - tiny tiny a delta - pain, temperature- very thin myelinated fibers - amenable to rapid blockade b fibers are preganglionic autonomic - vasc sm musc c fibers - pain fibers, temperature. these are teeny tiny tiny fibers, easy to block. with locals epidurally or spinally you can differentially block these, you can give such a weak solution that you block only pain and not motor fibers but it is very hard. in large animals, when you do this, assume motor blockade will occur if you are blocking spinal nerves, and prepare for it. if you give a local do not count on muscular control. minimal blocking concentration Cm - lowest concentration that will block a nerve in a given time in vitro this compares relative potency of local anesthetics. tissue conditions influence this in vivo, also fiber diameter, activity. pH, temperature, ion concentrations, fibrous tissue barriers. Cm is related to how rapidly fiber normally fires, too - those that fire more slowly are harder to block. tachyphylaxis- in theory, this means drug tolerance. basically, this is when a drug has declining effectiveness b/c it is given repeatedly - as with opiates,drug addicts. local anesthetics, if you ahve a catheter in place and you do not dose at the right intervals - if you wait too long - you end up using too much, just know that tachyphylaxis occurs, declining effectiveness if not timed right. so then you give more. that's ok. duration, field, potency all decrease, and top-ups end up being larger instead of smaller as they usually are. potency, onset, duration - important lidocaine 2%, mepivacaine 2% - onset 10min, duration 45-90 min or mepivicaine up to 120 min. comparable potency, toxicity bupivicaine- slower onset 15-20 min, but lasts longer, 4 to 5 hrs, more potent and 3-4x more toxic. usually 0.5% so you use the same #mL physicochemical properties also important- lipid solubility, protein binding, etc. non pharmacologic factors -some locals cause vasodilation, some cause vasoconstriction. this may influence potency, onset, duration. dosage - an interesting property where mass (mg) of drug and volume of drug are important - if you have 2 ml of .2% solun vs 10 ml of .2% solun, your bigger dose goes further cranially. but, if you take 2 ml of .2% solu'n, and 2 ml of 1% solun, the stronger solution also goes further forward. so concentration and volume are important wrt cranial migration. another factor to mention - epinephrine is sometimes added into lidocaine. you don't need to add it though. site of administration - epidural/spinal. influences things too. spinals have faster onset, shorter duration. we never plan to do a spinal. toxicity: cardiovascular -=bradycardia -ventricular dysrhythmias -wide QRS due to slowed conduction -negative inotropic effects with longer acting agents - this is why ropivicaine was developed, b/c bupivicaine can be really toxic - has killed people. this isn't the first system to show toxicity but anyway, these are the effects you can see. CNS is first system to be affected. -lightheadedness is reported in human volunteers -sedation/drowsiness follows, then, unconsciousness, seizures (inhibitory pathways are knocked out, causing seizures - tremors of face/limb may precede tonic/clonic siezures) coma -neurotoxicity parallels potency - bupivicaine is worst -prevention - know convulsive threshold - 10 mg/kg in mammals. max safe dose by all non IV means combined therefore is 8 mg/kg. llamas - lower. -tx: do non pharmacologic things first - airway, breathing, circulation. then postural changes to support blood flow to head. identify, treat hypotension and dysrhythmias - siezures. use drugs to control siezures, pressure, etc. do not give pentobarb. -preservatives should be avoided. single use vials are best. agents like sodium metabisulfite or formaldehyde may be present. these are not good. parabens are present in many drugs and these can cause allergic reaction. ideally use additive free drugs. so IV lidocaine infusions are used in horses and can cause sedation (tx laminities) opioids and alpha 2 agonists - different. bind specific receptors, can be specifically antagonized. always provide differential blockade. duration is longer, onset is slower cranial migration when you inject a drug, it can go a bunch of places. you need it to get into the CSF. most drugs never cross the dura at all - it gets systemically absorbed or leaks out - a tiny bit crosses the dura - that is the important amount. once it is in CSF bathing spinal cord, activity depends on how water soluble it is. morphine, very water soluble, will sit in CSF, and migrate forward toward brain- produce extensive multisegmental block - morphine notorious for being long lasting - in humans, 18-24 hrs. in small animals about as long. in hereford - lasted 22 hrs. fentanyl, oxymorphone, very lipid soluble, won't sit in CSF, rather diffuses into lipid of spinal cord - stays where you put it - produce segmental block. note: dura is fibrous, not lipid. driving force across it is determined by molecular size/shape, not solubility. informed drug choice depends on waht you want to block, what drugs will get there, if it shoudl be localized, etc. onset time of alpha2 is slower, over 20 min or even over 30 min. lasts realy long. unlike locals cranial migration theoretically only produces pain sense blockade - not motor blockade. locals wipe out everything, these only wipe out pain. remember that. sadly, i have to go to my grandma's birthday party now, because it is 4:51. seeya. ---end----