----start immuno 1.13.97---- Dr. Phil Scott - office rm 216 Rosenthal? email pscott@vet.upenn.edu phone 8-1602 material today: directly from the purple immuno book. so, instead of getting handouts just read the book. this is exactly from the book--chapter 7. this will not be true for the lectures given after the first exam. Antigen Antibody interaction is the subject of this lecture. how can we use Ag/Ab interaction for diagnosis? elisa, hemagglutination, etc. so this is a kind of more practical aspect. difference between antigen and epitope; how Ab recognize complex Ag, etc. theoretical interactions between Ab/Ag, secondary interactions between them as well. what are consequences of Ab/Ag binding together? three major ones --AGGLUTINATION: ag/ab bind together - ag is a particle, and it falls out of suspension. only occurs w/particulate antigen --PRECIPITATION: where the Ag is a soluble molecule --ACTIVATION OF COMPLEMENT- to be discussed friday for these consequences to occur there must be crosslinking between the molecules. If you have an antibody with a particular Ag that's univalent (a particle of bacteria, say, with one recognized epitope) you can't crosslink it. you need multivalent antigen in order to accomplish crosslinking. You almost always have multiple Ag and Ab in serum, so you generally do have the ability to crosslink. [slides] what holds Ab and Ag together? H bonds, electrostatic forces, van der waals forces, and hydrophobic interactions. NOT COVALENT bonds. the interaction bet Ag and Ab is actually pretty weak and easily reversible by changes in pH, salt concentration, other ion concentrations, etc. and certain somethingtropic agents which bind ions. so how do you measure the degree of interaction, which isn't the same for every Ag/Ab interaction? high affinity: good fit low affinity: poor fit affinity is measured by the association constant equation. Ab + Ag <===> AgAg [AbAg]/[Ab][Ag] = K the concentration of the AgAb complex divided by the product of the concentration of antibody and concentration of Ag equals the equilibrium constant K. so if you change the Ag or Ab concentration, you change the amount of complex. so doubling either Ag or Ab will DOUBLE the complex. keep in mind that K is a fixed number. realize this is all *concentration* dependent. so does this affinity measure an AbAg interaction? well, it doesn't really reflect what's happening with the whole complex. it's measuring the relationship of a specific Ab and a specific binding site on the Ag which is called AFFINITY but AVIDITY is the real interaction between an Ag and Ab molecule. if you take the Fab portion of the Ab and you take an Ag, you have a certain K measuring the affinity. if you take the whole IgG which has two binding sites, and look at a solution with several epitopes in it, you increase the interaction, because there are two binding sites on one Ab molecule, and because you're looking at all epitopes on the antigen. this is AVIDITY and is much greater than the affinity of one Fab portion and one of the epitopes of that Ag. AVIDITY is simply the measure of an Ab and complex Ag and the interactions between those two, where affinity is more specific measure of interaction between one Fab portion and one epitope. specificity, cross reactivity, and non reactivity: so you have the AbAg interactions. some are better than others. specificity: a specific Ag and Ab are specific for each other. cross reactivity: some shared determinants, such that Ab specific for AgX will react mildly with AgY which shares some determinants with AgX. if there are not any shared determinants there is no reactivity. if you make Tb antiserum, you have serum with Ab to multiple Tb epitopes. If you put that serum with a similar mycobacterium you would probably see some cross reactivity, but if you put it with HIV you probably wouldn't see any reactivity. mycobacterium paratuberculosis is sometimes present in cattle. but there is potential for cross reactivity to mycobacterium bovis which is much more serious so you need to evaluate the specificity of the Ab used in the diagnostic assay. say you want to test an animal for Ab to a particular pathogen. you need to find out if the patient was exposed to that pathogen, so you need to get this info. you do this by putting the pathogen into test tubes, and you add the patient's serum into the test tubes in various concentrations. if the sample is positive you will see agglutination at various concentrations until the sample is too dilute. so you can get an idea of how much Ab is in the serum. if you get agglutination at 1:32 but not at 1:64 you have a titer of 1:32. say your patient has a titer of 1:32 of the pathogen you test for. what does that mean? well, you have to compare it to a standard for what you know to be positive or negative. Eg, if you KNOW an animal is not infected, what titer do you get? If THAT titer is 1:32, it could be that there are cross reactions that normally occur giving a titer of 1:32. SO that would mean that your patient can't be considered exposed....you can't say it *isn't* but the test doesn't confirm that it is. Now, if normal is 1:4, and your patient is 1:32, then that will be interesting. It's now more likely that your patient was infected with the pathogen in question. but you'd like to have some kinetics on this exposure. is 1:32 more or less than what it was last month or next month? note also that many times at very high concentrations of Ab you don't see agglutination: this is called PROZONE phenomenon. a situation where there is so much Ab present that there isn't enough Ag for crosslinking. so you always need to do several dilutions of the test serum. there could be no reaction due to this phenomenon....if you just measured a 1:64 dilution and it was negative, dosen't mean animal negative. maybe test didn't even work. also: always need + and - controls. use a known positive and known negative. red cell antigens: important wrt transfusions, autoimmune hemolytic anemia, rh factor sensitization, etc. totally can't see slide from here at all :( you can take RBCs and add random Ag to them, and test for it - passive hemagglutination. in this way you use the assay and the fact that RBCs agglutinate to test for whatever Ag you have put on there. the thing with this assay - it's easy to mix rbcs and serum, and you can see the agglutination, so it's easy, but the problem in the past was, rbcs and abs have charges which tend to repel each other. RBCs are - charged. so IgM Abs would give the hemagglutination, but IgG wouldn't, because of the zeta potential, which means that the IgG and RBCs repel each other.[note- see below. mistake. RBCs repel each other, not RBCs and Ig.] IgM is a larger molecule and can overcome the repulsive force. this was a big problem. so you use this assay in looking for rh factor antibodies, testing for hemolytic anemia, etc. so Coombs improved this assay - he used the fact that Ab themselves can be antigens. what he did was - you have an RBC and an Ag on there and you think your test serum will recognize that Ag. you're looking for IgG in the dog blood. well, because of zeta potential you might not see agglutination. so coombs raised antibodies to the dog IgG: he injected dog IgG into a rabbit, and got the rabbit to produce anti-dogIgG antibody. so you take those antibodies and react them with the dog IgG, it will increase the binding of the dog IgG to the red cells and will increase the hemagglutination. two ways: direct and indirect coombs assay. if you think your patient has made Abs to its own RBCs (hemolytic anemia) you take those RBCs (which have Ab already attached) and you add anti-Ab Ab, and that should cause hemagglutination. that's a direct coombs. or, take RBCs from an animal, take a test serum, and see if serum recognizes an Ag on the RBC as described above (rabbit thing)- indirect. take RBCs you know do not have Ab bound, add test serum, and see if it binds, by adding anti-patient Ab. - again, indirect (second explanation) ---break--- dr scott remarks that he misspoke about the zeta potential. apparently the zeta potential - the problem is the interaction of the RBCs all being negatively charged - so the RBCs repel each other, and you need a way to bridge that. you need crosslinking to occur to see precipitation too. you have an AgAb complex forming in such a way it is called a lattice, and it will come out of solution and can be measured. PROZONE also occurs with precipitation reactions. If you have Ab excess, there is a low amt of precipitation, due to lack of crosslinking. Also if you have Ag excess you don't get much precipitation either. When you have an appropriate amt of both Ag and Ab, you have "equivalence" and you get a lot of precipitation. immuno-double diffusion Ag and Ab applied to holes punched in agar gel. you put ag in one hole, ab in another. they diffuse through the gel and you see precipitin band between the holes. you wash and stain the gel and you can see the line of precipitate. note that there may be multiple lines of precipitation if there are multiple Ag/Ab interactions. (eg, using complex ab and ag, not monoclonal). in the book it talks about (pp 123-124) different ways of looking at the precipitin bands, and using the reaction to see how many Ab may be recognizing Ag in a crude Ag prep. they talk about taking Ab to different Ag and seeing if there is identity, non-identity, or partial identity. THIS IS NOT GOING TO BE ON THE EXAM. p 123-124 NOT ON EXAM. ***NOT ON EXAM***** but he's going to tell us about it anyway...but it will NOT BE on the exam. (which is like, next friday, btw...) basically superceded by other ways of looking at abag interaction: electrophoresis, etc. another method: single radial immunodiffusion you take a gel, cut holes, add different amounts of antigen. the Ag will diffuse out from the wells and cause precipitation (this is an Ab containing gel) in rings around the holes. you can plot these reactions as a standard curve. then if you use an unknown Ag concentration, you can match it up with the standard curve. this is used in clinical settings due to the simplicity and ease of this method. immunoelectrophoresis led to outdating of some precipitin rxns. basically, you take an Ag mixture and run it on a gel so that the components separate out by charge. then you can make a large trough in the gel, put in antibodies, and look for a variety of precipitations. but even that has now been superceded by immunoblotting, where you can much MORE specifically look at particular antigens. (western blotting). this takes complex Ag, runs them on a gel to separate them out by molecular wt. normally when you do this you boil the Ag mix and add SDS which makes them all negatively charged, so you get separation by size instead of by charge. you take a test antibody and you see if it recognizes any of the proteins you have separated out. why is this important? you can use it experimentally and diagnostically. he says it is used in HIV testing and he's not sure about use in vet med but I know it has been used for FIV testing, because we did send out western blot FIV tests like 5 yrs ago from berkeley dog and cat and other places. [missed some stuff- was putting on my coat--it's really cold in here) ELISAs, competitive radioimmunoassay (cRIA) cRIA: you have a particular Ag A, and you want to know how much anti A Ab there is in the serum. you can radiolabel the Ag, and you have a specific amount of A labeled with a particular amt of radioAntiA. in a particular test sample, how much A is there? is the question you are answering. you add increasing amts of unlabeled Ag and get decreasing amts of radiolabeled Ag binding to the Ab. If you add NO unlabeled Ag, or "cold" Ag, then 100% of the radiolabeled Ag is bound. as you add increasing known amts of cold Ag, the percent of labeled Ag will decrease, and you can plot a standard curve. you can then come in and ask what is the percent of radiolabeled Ag is not binding when you then add an unknown amount of antigen (eg, you add test serum) and from that you can extrapolate how much Ag is in the test sample using the standard curve. %bound radiolabled Ag/free Ag = y amt of unlabeled Ag = x -- so that's a competitive radioimmunoassay. but what we see more often is the elisa assay - enzyme linked immunoabsorbent assay. here you use an enzyme with a chromogen which gives a color change. relatively simple assay - two main types. one: an antigen is bound to a plate. question is, are there Ab which recognize the Ag in your test serum? proteins bind to plastic at particular pH levels nonspecifically. so you incubate your antigens overnight and they will bind to the plate, so that's how you start. you wash off the excess antigen, and then you block the plate (eg, milk wash, serum albumen wash) - eg, add irrelevant protein. this means the plate can no longer take up any proteins nonspecifically. ok, so now you add your test serum and incubate. if the test serum has antibody for this ag, it will bind. you wash the plate again to wash off unbound stuff. then you add a ligand which will bind to the antibody - so that would be an anti antibody antibody. and you have that ligand labeled such that an enzyme will cause a color change. you're testing whether or not the serum has antibodies that recognize a particular antigen. very straightforward. you use positive and negative controls, of course. sandwich elisa: coat an antibody to the plate, then test for an antigen that reacts with it. eg, bind antiA Ab to the plate, then add test sample. if A Ag is in the sample, it will bind to the Ab on the plate. then you add antiA Ab to the wells, and if A is there it will bind. then you add your third, labelled Ab. you can actually label the second, but usually do third, because it amplifies the rxn. direct and indirect immunofluororassay: IFA you have an Ab reacting w/specific tissue or cells. the Ab can be fluoresceinated (labelled). so you take tissue section and add the labelled Ab and see if it reacts. that's direct. or, you have tissue with Ab and you add fluoresceinated anti-Ab, and that amplifies it. this is indirect. it amplifies bcause you get many anti Ab molecules binding to one Ab molecule. ----end----