---start---- epidemiology 1/21/98 first we did problem set #3. now, he's telling some story about sheep and mathemeticians... Prognosis: a prediction of the expected outcome, with or without treatment... it is expressed as the probability that something will occur in the future. practicioners should avoid statements that can be misconstrued as statements of a contract, eg if this...then that. this is when you start making implied contracts and becoming vulnerable to lawsuits. a client should be made aware of the probabilities of favorable and unfavorable outcomes. this is not to say you shouldn't maintain a positive attitude. you can't be sued for being cheerful. but don't say "if you give it this drug, he'll get better." as we shall see, these probabilities usually take the form of cumulative incidence of some event (death, cure, disability, complication, etc) we're not using anything different. it's the proportion of instances where an outcome occurs with regard to the total number of animals at risk. cumulative incidence. there have been a number of studies on what constitutes a good expression of prognosis. an ideal case is: things that should be included in a prognosis: 1. variability in course relative to treatment options (eg, if you do this, you're likely to see this occur, but maybe 5% of cases will have complication x) 2. a time reference - if death from disease will occur in 5 yrs, that is a different prognosis in a 15 yr old animal than a disease that will kill it in 5 days. or, "most dogs recover, but sometimes it takes 4 years to recover..." 3. risk of treatment related death or other complication 4. cost - while we cannot put a cost on human lives, people can and do put costs on the lives of their pets. ditto racehorses - insurance companies will make those decisions. 5. nature of the benefit attainable - can you cure the animal? arrest the disease? what is cure? when something else kills you first? when the symptoms go away? something else? generally, casual expressions of prognosis won't include all the above...but you should try expressing prognosis - some expressions used: survival: proportion of patients that survive a defined interval from some defined point in the course of disease. it's meaningless to discuss survival without time. you can't say "there is a 50% survival rate with this disease." you have to say "50% rate of survival over one year from diagnosis" or something. often, survival will differ depending on when you start - from beginning of tx, or from time of dx, or time of first occurrence of dz, or what? often, when you quote survival rates, you aren't told when time zero is. if you see a survival rate, always check this. case fatality: proportion of patients who die of the disease. really should have a time reference. how do you know you got to the end? maybe an animal died of the disease when it was 21... response: proportion of patients improving after treatment. time- how soon? absolutely when you follow all cases forever?no, you can't do that. remission: proportion of patients entering a phase in which dz is no longer detectable. recurrence: proportion of patients who experience a return of disease after remission. again, timeline is important. all these expressions are used. there are a whole number of problems when you try to work this stuff out. problems in trying to measure /describe outcomes useful in prognosis: 1. natural history of dz is rarely observed, because sick animals are treated - no baseline for comparison. what do you compare your prognosis with? if you say "death rate of cats over 5 years with this dz is x" what do you compare it to? 2. reports of prognosis from vet teaching hospitals may not be representative of cases seen in typical practice - referred cases have often been referred because they are more sick than other cases. 3. qualitative expressions of prognosis mean different things to different people. you know...they talk about someone in the hospital doing "very poorly." what does that mean? at death's door? having a bad hair day? when someone desperately hopes for a favorable outcome they may always look for the silver lining... qualitative terms for clinical outcomes: prognosis probability of recovery (%) excellent 90-100 good 70-89 fair 40-69 poor 10-39 grave 0-9 (Crowe, 1985) essentially, we're talking cohort study. you take a group of animals with the same disease and figure what's going to happen. problems: 1. zero time - do you start from the time you start tx? the time animal presented with dz? the time owner first noticed signs of dz? different measures of prognosis use different starting times. 2. interval of followup - comparing tx x with tx y or no tx, you may be comparing your work to someone else's work, and often, for many reasons, the interval over which the event of significance is recorded, is different. now, cumulative incidence increases with time. if you measure incidence of death in animals given tx x, over 2 yrs, and compare it with animals given tx y, you'd also want to do it over 2 yrs. but sometimes you do it over a different time period. if you are designing the study, you have to watch the animals long enough to figure out the prognosis - if you want to see an event, your observation period must exceed the induction period. so interval of followup really has to be the same for all cohorts bcause cumulative incidence is meaningless unless time period is defined. example of this problem: mortality of FeLV infected and noninfected cats: cause of death FeLV+ FeLV- LSA 15.2% 0.6% other 13.0% 0.2% FeLV+ figures - two year followup FeLV- figures - three year followup. these negative cats have had a whole extra year of being watched in which they had a chance to die. their incidences would really be less if only watched for 2 yrs. so FeLV+ really confers a worse prognosis than this indicates. another problem: survival analysis: summary survival rates only tell us what patients with a given condition are likely to experience at some given point in time. japanese people have low infant mortality and high longevity. US has dreadful infant mortality rate - very high. kenya has huge infant mortality and mortality during first two years - then go on to live as long as japanese people. survival analysis provides information about the average time to event for any point in the course of disease. eg: survivorship curve for postop survival of 15 cats treated for hemangiosarcoma. plot survival vs time. these curves are often difficult to contract because some patients drop out of the study. consider the average time to death - after 20 weeks, maybe 80% of the cats are still alive....after 120 weeks, only 25% of them are still alive. using the same zero time and the same period of observation, you can compare survival rates. the chart he shows now indicates that cats with + LNs after mammary CA resection have lower survival rates than cats with - LNs. the problem with this is that to construct these curves requires that none of the patients drop out of the study. if someone moves away with their cat, and the cat is lost to followup, you're screwed, analytically speaking. then you have to do "life table analysis" and the difference between that and survival analysis is that in life table analysis you can account for the fact that some animals have dropped out of the study. life table analysis: can be used when some patients drop out of the study. the essence of life table analysis is that the number of individuals at risk (of dying or whatever) over each interval can be adjusted for those that drop out. interval censored dead at risk survival% 0 0 0 15 100 6 0 1 15 93 (15-1/15) 13 0 2 14 87 (15-2/15) 15 0 3 13 80 (15-3/15) 20 *2 4 10 72 (13-4/13) * censored = withdrew from study - moved to connecticut the only thing to remember is that life tables will account for those who drop out of the study. that's it. that's all. one last thing. if you get a survivorship curve that starts high and ends low, don't think that because slope decreases, animals at the right of the curve have an increased probability of surviving any given interval. although the slope of the curve is decreasing, the probability of surviving any given interval is the same irrespective of how far away you are from zero time. the probability of dying is the same everywhere - but you keep losing survivors. so an exponentially decaying curve represents a constant probability of an event occurring. it's just curved because as time increases, the number of animals at risk decreases. the exam will not have anything on it about prognosis. ---end----