----start--- pharm 1/30/98 klide we're now on p 28 IV anesthetics, continued used to induce anesthesia: thiopental - probably most commonly used anesthetic in veterinary medicine or was until recently. used in almost all species. it's a generalized depressant. people have tried correlating EEG with depth of anesthesia - that doesn't work. cardiovascular effects - typical of barbiturates. sensitizes myocardium to arrhythmogenic effects of catecholamines, decreases cerebral blood flow. we'll point out drugs that are useful in terms of cerebral blood flow b/c brain is in a rigid container, and if it swells it will get damaged due to pressure and impaired flow, so often we need drugs which do not raise intracranial pressure, or might lower it. drugs that decrease cerebral blood flow tend to lower intracranial pressure, so thiopental is useful then. also inhibits production of NO which might add some vasoconstriction and help prevent falls in BP when it's given. removal of thiopental from patients: talked about before, will repeat now. first point is, it is highly protein bound. importance of this is if the patient has lower than normal protein, there will be marked increase in free active drug, so if you give drug by weight and don't consider hypoproteinemia, you will markedly overdose it. liver, body fat, and redistribution - effects on thiopental: thiopental very fat soluble. blood flow to fat in ml/gr is low, but eventually thiopental gets to fat and is taken up by it. when one looks at duration of effect of a drug like an anesthetic, you choose a time to decide when recovery is. when animal lifts head, gets sternal, stands, or is normal. amount of fat probably influences lenght of time until animal is totally normal - increases is - esp in greyhounds. thiopental is metabolized by the liver, important with repeated doses. regarding redistribution - if you give it IV, first it is all in the blood, then blood level falls and the highly perfused viscera get a large amount of the drug. as time goes by, the drug is taken up by lean muscle, and then fat. as the uptake occurs in lean muscle and fat, the levels in blood and highly perfused viscera falls. early recovery from many IV drugs is due to initial redistribution (including thiopental). where do greyhounds fit? they tend to be lean, have lots of muscle mass. but, pet greyhounds may be heavier. also, we often talk about anesthetics having special effects in sighthounds. the only work done in any breed of sighthounds was in greyhounds. there are no real papers showing any effects in any breed other than the greyhound. but, from clinical experience and body conformation, people include other breeds - whippets, italian greyhounds, ibizan hounds, pharoah dogs (see handout) what happens in these dogs given a dose of thiopental, if you look at blood level over time, blood level is always higher in the greyhound than in a crossbred dog. this may be due to lack of fat and redistribution, but also a major reason is the liver of greyhounds handles it less efficiently so metabolic rate of thiopental breakdown is slower. so their recoveries are longer. almost every breeder of every breed thinks that their breed is sensitive to anesthetics. there is little information out there - dr klide thinks breeders are relating experiences from the distant past, when veterinary anesthesia wasn't good, and lots of animals died or had prolonged recoveries. this has changed, but people remember. calves also are a special circumstance - sleep much longer than adult cattle after thiopental administration, so they get reduced dose. shouldn't use at all in calves under 2 mos due to very prolonged recovery undesirable effects: anaphylaxis - very rare prolonged recovery with repeated doses - common with repeated doses. first dose - 15 min recovery. 2nd dose - 20 min. 3rd - 30 min. 4th - 75 min. as you give repeated doses, fat and lean tissue "fill up" and body relies on hepatic metabolism instead of redistribution for early recovery. so recovery is prolonged, because hepatic metabolism is relatively slow compared to redistribution. effects of atropine on thiopental induced sleeping time: in clinical doses, when given with usual dose of thiopental, atropine will double the sleeping time. in our usual clinical use of thiopental (induction with a single small dose followed by a long period of inhalant anesthesia) this isn't usually important. but if you are anesthetizing a greyhound and premed with atropine, that would really prolong the recovery. also there are other anticholinergics - glycopyrrolate, which doesn't cross BBB or placenta, does not extend recovery time like atropine does. thiamylal: no longer available. don't discuss. was commonly used, but FDA didn't like the way it was mfrd, and company abandoned it instead of redoing it. methohexital: an oxybarbiturate, very short acting. used in people and vet med. was used a lot in greyhounds, because recovery is shorter than from thiopental, but disadvantage is it causes more excitement during induction and recovery. sometimes you can prevent or treat this with sedatives, but the excitement from this drug is marked and hard to tx. pentobarbital was used as anesthetic for many years, isn't any more except sometimes in lab animals phenobarbital does produce anesthesia, but isn't used that way anymore. used to treat epilepsy etomidate and propofol: these have become increasingly popular, used a great deal now. etomidate: highly protein bound like thiopental, 76% in dogs. has an effect on GABA receptor, which is part of the site of action. also some evidence for effect on A2 receptors, but not sure what role they play. its major use is in animals that have cardiovascular dysfunction, due to heart disease or systemic disease or whatever. it is the most sparing of cardiovascular function of most of the IV and inhaled anesthetics. no changes in HR, BP or CO in normal dogs, very little change in sicker dogs. duration prolonged in greyhounds but still very short. short in all dogs. it inhibits production of corticosteroids. when originally released for use in humans, when there is need for prolonged sedation of patients in ICUs, they thought they could use this drug for it because recovery is short even with prolonged recovery. they didn't know about steroid impairment, but they saw increased morbidity and mortality in ICU patients who got prolonged doses. now they know it inhibits production of corticosteroids. pathway for production of corticosteroids and aldosterone involves two mitochondrial sites that this drug interferes with - desmolase, the cholesterol side chain cleavage enzyme, and 11 beta hydroxylase. so it interferes with those sites and prevents formation of cortisol and aldosterone for 4-6 hrs. this isn't a problem in most cases we use the drug for. if it were a problem, we could give replacement steroids but we don't usually have to do that. many drugs arne't very soluble in water, so to increase solubility so volume of injection is reasonable, they may use a different solvent - for etomidate they use propylene glycol. therefore, osmolarity is very high, so it can cause hemolysis. in most circumstances the dose is small enough that it isn't a problem. if you're concerned, you can dilute it with isotonic saline to decrease this effect. negative aspects of this drug - often produces myoclonus (muscle twitching) in single isolated muscle or lip. usually short lasting. incidence is decreased of you also use tranquilizers or opiates. it also causes vomiting, and the incidence similarly decreases with sedatives or opiates. drug is quite expensive, but for very sick patients who do not tolerate other anesthetics, this is very useful. propofol aka Rapinovet: this is quite commonly used in humans, fairly common in veterinary medicine. has interesting properties that are useful, and some that are problematic. this is a milky white liquid. it's a phenol derivative. because of that, you should consider it might be a problem in cats. we'll discuss that. it's not particularly soluble. the initial solvent used was something that caused histamine release, esp in dogs. in 1983, they changed from that to the current prep, which is an emulsion, which is mainly soybean oil, and some glycerol and egg lecithin. it's like IV tofu :). reason for mentioning this is if you look in literature, you have to know which preparation was used - if original prep was used in dogs, results will be very different. propofol potentiates GABA as almost all anesthetic appears to do. it's very short lasting. very very short lasting. even w/repeated doses recovery is still short. may be a bit prolonged compared to original recovery, but still very short. very rapidly metabolized in liver, but clearance is higher than hepatic blood flow, so it is also metabolized somewhere else - likely the lung. it's taken up by the lung. the majority of an initial dose is taken up by lung. the nonhepatic metabolic site hasn't been clearly defined. patients receiving liver transplants obviously lack a liver for a time while old one is gone and new one is being put in. people gave propofol during that time, then assayed for metabolites, and found them, so they are obviously produced somewhere aside from liver. recovery in sighthounds longer than in crossbreds but still short. very very highly protein bound. it depresses cardiovascular function - decreases HR, BP, CO, and systemic resistance. these decreases are due to direct negative ionotropic action and direct effect on arterial and venous tone. stimulates release oF NO which may be cause of vasodilation in arteries and veins. it is very useful for short procedures, even for longer ones b/c can be given by infusion and still have short recovery, or used for induction w/o lengthening recovery period. used a lot esp in sighthounds. concern: using it in patients w/brain dysfunction - ischemia and/or hypoxia in brain causes release of glutamate, causing neurotoxicity. thiopental decreases the glutamate mediated toxicity; propofol seems to enhance it. because of these differences there is concern about using propofol in patients that might have cerebral ischemia or hypoxia. no histamine release with current preparation. some pain on injection in humans; animals don't seem to show a problem. some excitement - very small amount. less than with the other drugs we discussed. produces occasional twitching, short lasting, one body part. might be anti-emetic - seems so in humans. if you give repeated doses to cats, causes heinz body formation. appears to cause oxidative degeneration of cat Hb with repeated doses. sometimes there is prolonged recovery in cats. is used in cats, but you have to know about this. rabbits - light level of anesthesia resulted in death of 40% of rabbits in one study. there is a response that occurs in humans that some patients waking up start to have dreams and actions relating to sex - not sure if it happens in animals. also produces a state people might enjoy, so there is concern about abuse of this drug. so this is a very useful drug with the concerns as noted. steroids: there are several drugs that have steroid configuration that produce anesthesia. they usually don't get successfully marketed. one mixture was marketed for vet and human use. human product has been withdrawn, vet product still marketed in europe. the two drugs in it aren't very soluble - uses same propofol solvent, causes histamine release, so used only in cats and primates (see handout for name?). dissociative anesthetics: cyclohexylamines cavalierly used in vet practice all the time in many species phencyclidine - first one made. used as anesthetic in humans. high rate of psychosis, psychotic rxns. no longer used or made legally, but abused a lot. was sold as sernylan, sernyl, for use in NHPs, made handling them easier. ketamine: released for use in humans and animals at about same time tiletamine: started out at same time as ketamine, but not released for 20 yrs. animals that these are used in - primarily cats and NHPs at first, then more in other animals. utility is different in other spp, esp with dogs. ketamine appears to separate patient from environment and is consistent restraint drug. once animal starts to look affected, animal isn't likely to exhibit any defenses. will ignore surroundings. there is an effect on the diffuse thalamoneocortical projecting system. is noncompetitive NMDA receptor antagonist. can produce seizures. rare in domestic cats, common in nondomestic cats, common in dogs. increases cerebral blood flow and intracranial pressure - avoid in animals if you're concerned about that. it has in some spp a marked effect on skeletal muscle tone. cat on ketamine: eyes open, pupils dilated, tongue protruded, forelimbs rigid, hindlimbs also stiff. if you roll it over on its back, rigidity is enhanced. if you give a tranquilizer like diazepam, they get soft, relaxed. then when you roll them on their backs, they're floppy. so mixtures of ketamine and tranquilizers in cats are very useful. respiratory effects: depression. that is, the pCO2 will go up. the pattern of ventilation also changes - normally it's inhalation/exhalation, pause. animals given any of these drugs, their ventilatory pattern becomes apneustic. they inhale, pause (hold breath), rapidly exhale, inhale again, hold breath, lather rinse and repeat. cardiovascular effects: in the dog - three different doses were given and effect over time looked at. arterial BP goes up with all three doses. more important, the biggest increase was produced by the smallest dose. larger doses produce smaller effects. why? cardiac output is increased with all three doses, but biggest increase is from smallest dose. same thing with heart rate. why? how could that happen? what are the ways drugs can affect cardiac function? can affect the baroreceptor pathway. but what are the parts making BP be what they are? CO, and peripheral resistance. so how hard the heart pumps affects pressure, and resistance affects it. drugs can affect either of those things directly, but the sympathetic NS also controls those things so drugs can have indirect effects via sympathetic NS. for an isolated heart/lung prep, if you give ketamine, you get dose related depression of HR, and CO. increasing doses make it fall. ketamine is a direct myocardial depressant - but it's a sympathetic stimulant. at higher doses, you increase sympathetic stimulation only up to a point, but myocardial depression gets greater and greater. so that's what we see going on here. increased salivation. vomiting very rare. these drugs do cross the placenta. excretion - marked differences b/w species. most spp metabolize it fairly rapidly in the liver. in the cat, it's excreted mainly unchanged, so duration of effect of these drugs in cats is longer than in other spp. clinical use: often used in domestic cats. alone causes severe rigidity which would interfere with positioning, but with phenothiazines, benzodiazepines, or A2 agonist tranquilizers, relaxation occurs. to anesthetize cats with only ketamine, dose is very high, which prolongs recovery. ketamine alone is not a good anesthetic for these reasons. when you add various tranquilizers, it's much better and dose is reduced, duration isn't so long, rigidity is reduced. there is some concern about using it w/A2 agonists. A2 agonists cause vasoconstriction, which increases afterload, and then the ketamine increases HR and CO. so there have been reports of arrhythmias and pulmonary edema w/ketamine in some spp. still, ketamine and A2 agonists is commonly used in cats and dogs. ketamine also used in horses after premed with A2 agonists. useful for induction but if you keep giving it there is marked excitement in recovery. nondomestic cats and other spp - useful with tranquilizer. many nondomestic cats will convulse with ketamine, but not if tranquilizer also used. the use of ketamine in dogs has become common. ketamine isn't approved for use in the dog, but that's ok - vets can use drugs for unapproved purposes if they can defend their use (in court). some drugs are easy to defend. diazepam isn't approved for use in any animal, but use is easy to defend - tons of literature about safety and efficacy. ketamine in dog as an anesthetic is harder to defend. many other safe, effective anesthetics labelled for dogs are out there. but many vets use ketamine in the dog. they rarely use it here, because of the cardiovascular effects (some people like the stimulation of myocardium), you sometimes see pulmonary edema and heart failure. recoveries are often bad, with lots of excitement and fever and vocalization. also subjectively, Dr. Klide thinks that "dogs don't like it." cats, when recovering, look abnormal but not distressed (except a small subset of cats that totally freak out), but dogs look upset. with a really bad, especially large dog which we can't restrain, we may use it because dr klide is more worried about humans safely handling it, and these drugs are most consistent for restraint. ---break--- so, ketamine by itself isn't useful in most spp because dose required is high, convulsions occur, stiffness occurs, recovery is long. mixing with tranquilizers lowers the dose, shortens the recovery and reduces convulsions. PCP was the first one of these. systemic effects similar to ketamine, duration was longer in cats, seizures occured, stiffness occured in primates (but not as much as cats on ketamine. primates not stiff on ketamine). PCP only available illegally now. also called angel dust, or horse tranquilizer, although never used in horses. ketamine: effects in humans similar to those of PCP. increasingly abused by people. commonly abused. not being illegally made, it's being stolen. one of the ploys people have used to try to aquire the drug is to call up, say they work for another practice, and they need to borrow some ketamine. you should call someone back at their office if they say that. commonly referred to as special K. teletamine - not available by itself, only as a mixture with zolazepam in telazol. lasts longer than ketamine, in most spp. affects some nondomestic cats - siberian tigers and others - in weird way. after you give it, cat appears to recover, and then the day after they become abnormal again. not sure why, maybe a metabolite is produced and it builds up and has an effect, or maybe it is excreted into bile into GI tract and then reabsorbed, not sure. happens in about 50% of nondomestic cats that it happens to. diazepam in small doses seems to prevent the effect. not sure why. ketamine is used by itself in NHPs for restraint. CV and Resp effects on other spp depend on what it's mixed with. most importantly, with ketamine and xylazine BP increases markedly. primary resp effect is depression and increased pCO2 with all the mixtures. regarding telazol - the ads imply that it is better than the other mixes because it is already mixed. but, that advantage is also the disadvantage - it's a fixed proportion. the duration of effect of the two parts are quite different. if animal starts to recover and you aren't done, you have to give another dose of it, and the effect of the longer lasting drug will increase more and more because it accumulates. you can't just give the one that's wearing off. you could give another drug, but then why bother with the mix in the first place. the only real advantage is that it comes as a powder to reconstitute, and when you're using it in a projectile dart eg with exotics in zoo, or wild, or for animal control, that's useful - the volume of drug is important because the darts are small. think of the tiger. dose of telazol would be 3 mL. with ketamine it would be much larger. you could freeze dry the ketamine and then reconstitute it at double the concentration to half the volume. also re: drug mixtures - one of the uses of medetomidine with ketamine is that it allows the dose of ketamine to be markedly decreased, more so than with xylazine. so when you're using ketamine, and you want the recovery to be short, this is useful. if you give A2 agonist with ketamine and then reverse the A2 agonist, you're left with ketamine's effects alone, which aren't good. with medetomidine, you can use much much less ketamine, so less of a problem after you reverse the medetomidine. Guaifenisin?: muscle relaxant, some sedation, cough suppressant.used for induction of anesthesia with thiopental in horses. only for coughs in people. horses given thiopental will respond vigorously - get excited, may refuse to move, etc. if you add guaifenisin, it slows horse down, makes it easier to move it around,makes it more controllable. it has some effects on BP (decreases) but not too much to deal with. not used in small animals. need to make very dilute solution, so you have to give a lot, but otherwise it causes hemolysis. a lot of hemolysis. there are three ancient drugs, last of injectables on our list: chlorolose: was used, but use is markedly diminished, for physiologic or pharmacologic studies, because it didn't enhance reflexes - may have enhanced them. but it isn't a good anesthetic. causes convulsions, doesn't produce much analgesia. historically, was used with NMBA so paralysis covered things up, but that is unpleasant for animals. IACUCs will disallow chloralose as an anesthetic unless it's for a pain-free procedure urethane: rarely used. carcinogenic for people using it. so people don't want to use it. chloral hydrate: used a long time ago as anesthetic and sedative. worked, but inductions weren't good, recoveries were long with lots of excitement. used as sleep aid in people and as knockout drops to shanghai sailors. Inhaled anesthetics: first ones were used in middle of 1800s. there are many chemical structures that produce inhaled anesthetics. most of the inhaled anesthetics are liquids at room temperature. partial pressure = pressure exerted by component of a mixture -> atmospheric pressure is made of partial pressures of oxygen, nitrogen, CO2, etc etc. the amount of each of those things produces the partial pressure for that substance. multiply concentration x total pressure to get partial pressure of a substance. when evaporation occurs, molecules escape from surface of liquid. with boiling, also from down in the liquid. vapor pressure is partial pressure of a vapor in equilibrium with a liquid. if you have a container of glass with halothane in it, the liquid will start to evaparate. molecules will leave surface. if container is closed, molecules entering air will increase,accumulate in air, and finally some will go back into liquid- equilibrium is reached when amount leaving liquid equals amount returning to liquid. the partial pressure of the liquid at equilibrium is the vapor pressure. the concentration of molecules in air above the liquid is the saturation concentration. the vapor pressure of liquids changes with temperature. as temp goes up, vapor pressure goes up. vapor pressure and saturation concentratoin are important, also that they're affected by temp. on p 38 are some numbers - blood gas coefficients of anesthetics, vapor pressures. numbers to remember: MAC and blood gas coefficient, and vapor pressure at rm temp for some of these anesthetics SEE HANDOUT for all this vapor stuff. i'm not sure i'm getting it all. blood gas coefficient - ratio of concentration of stuff in blood compared to concentration of stuff in gas above it. similar to oil:gas coefficient. for halothane, 2.3, isoflurane, 1.4 we'll repeat over and over but won't believe and will forget this: there is a relationship b/w blood gas solubility coefficient and speed of induction and recovery. the less soluble the anesthetic, the faster induction and recovery. MAC we discussed before. the basic effects of inhaled anesthetics: CNS depression in general, most of them. some will produce EEG patterns that are similar to seizures - same as seizures. enflurane most likely to do that. it will produce spikes on EEG same as spikes produced by seizures. depending on species you may actually see a convulsion. one of the problems with enflurane use in our environment, where students do anesthesia, in general one interprets movement in the patient as being too lightly anesthetized - but with this drug, could be twitching in response to drug and be already heavily anesthetized. all are respiratory depressants, dose related. cardiovascular effects - all produce decreases in BP, CO, and most often decreases in HR. there are some differences b/w them. some people make more of a production about this than others. in general, the CO will be depressed less by isoflurane than halothane at equivalent doses. in general, iso will cause more vasodilation than halothane. the effects on cerebral blood flow: all increase cerebral blood flow. some people argue about the amounts, but they all do do it to a significant amount. clinical difference b/w the agents - if you're concerned about intracranial pressure, one way to decrease cerebral blood flow is to hyperventilate the patient since it's controlled by CO2 level. if you blow off CO2, can decrease cerebral blood flow. if you hyperventilate while giving one of these drugs, cerebral blood flow will be in between. with iso, can easily overcome increase in flow via hyperventilation, but with halothane it isn't so easy. effects in liver and kidney we'll get back to. all the potent volatile liquid anesthetics are metabolized but to very different degrees. anesthetics may cause mutation, cancer, and fetal abnormalities. there is a major concern about chronic exposure of peopel to low levels of inhaled anesthetics, because it may cause some things - clearly causes increased irritability, headaches. may cause increased incidence of cancer or spontaneous abortion in pregnant women - not clearly defined. there was evidence showing it did, evidence showing it didn't, so equipment was put on the machines to prevent gases from leaking into rooms, so point is moot. with appropriate scavenging, levels approach zero. onset and recovery vary with solubility. duration is as long as you give the drug. amounts depend on the drug. 1 MAC prevents movement in half the individuals getting painful stimulus. 1.3 MAC is surgical anesthesia. inhalents are all respiratory depressants and produce apnea at high doses. all can produce hypotension and cardiac arrest at high doses. all cross placenta and will affect fetuses. increase in spontaneous abortion - mostly studied in pregnant women working in ORs, but also there was an increased incidence in women who were bred by men who were working in the OR. diethyl ether - one of first anesthetics, used a long time, still a bit in labs. ether explodes if you put it in the refrigerator. why? it has a very high vapor pressure. if you cool it, you decrease vapor pressure, slowing [note: check this. he said slowing, I'm not sure if he meant slowing] rate of evaporation. this is the same reason you don't put bananas in the fridge [well, bananas don't explode but they overripen]. when you open the fridge the compressor sparks and it can blow up if you had ether in there. some rabbits euthanized with ether were put into a fridge once and it blew up. two reasons to use ether: one, as an anesthetic in small lab animals (rats, mice) - was used by inhalation w/no vaporizer, because concentration made when it evaporated was a reasonable concentration for inducing anesthesia. can't use iso and halothane that way, but methoxyflurane can be. the other reason people say they need ether is to remove adhesive tape or put it on. if you pour it on the adhesive tape, it gets sticker and sticks on better, then evaporates. then, when you get it off, you can pour it on again, and it helps you get it off. but,now there are other nonexplosive solvents for that. no reason to have ether at all. halothane: very commonly used. was used a lot in humans before isoflurane. vapor pressure and MAC are in handout. not stable, so mixed with thimalt (?) which has implications for vaporizer. is general depressant, decreases HR, pressures, CO. has more of an effect on heart and less effect on periphery. sensitizes myocardium to arrhythmogenic effects of catecholamines. respiratory depressant, pCO2 increases. very potent, useful bronchodilator. animals with bronchospastic disease do well with it. 20% of inhaled halothane is metabolized. it was noticed in humans that some cases of hepatic failure occured unexpectedly in relatively healthy young patients undergoing elective procedures. this liver toxicity appeared in those people. there was an attempt made to determine if this occured more frequently with halothane than with other drugs used then (in the 60s). almost a million cases were studied and they couldn't figure it out. so many things happen to people in hospitals that can cause hepatitis - infections from caregivers, blood products, whatever - that they couldn't figure it out. information in animals still less clear. there is only documented hepatitis in some strains of colored guinea pigs - some of them get hepatitis after getting halothane. the only way to recreate the syndrome in other spp was to give prolonged doses of phenobarb, and then create hypoxia while anesthetized with halothane. so people worry about halothane in animals with liver dz but there is no evidence that it is a problem. blood gas solubility coefficient = 2.3, relatively insoluble - induction and recovery fairly quick. methoxyflurane: metofane. used in lab animals. common in vet med before iso. use markedly decreased. decreases resp and cardiovascular function as discussed. half or more of it is metabolized - most of any of these. one of the metabolites is inorganic fluoride. shortly after its release for use in humans, there was an increase in unexpected renal failure. then, in the 60s, it wasn't known that these drugs were metabolized. so tehy figured it out. the fluoride was nephrotoxic. see handout for info on nephrotoxicity. if one gives almost any species methoxyflurane in reasonable amounts - gave 1.5 mac to dogs for 3 hrs. measured inorganic fluoride levels in blood. level rapidly rises once you start giving the drug, peaks at 3 hrs, then slowly falls over 7 days, back to control levels. the peak was about 200 mmol/L. in humans, threshold for nephrotoxicity is 20-50/L and 200 is lethal. so if 10 people were anesthetized in this way they would have all died of renal failure. the reason this iddn't happen, is in general humans get reduced amounts of multiple agents, so they didn't produce this much fluoride. in doing the studies, people had difficulty creating this in animals. threshold in dog for renal dysfunction is 200 mmol/L and lethal is 400.that's why. it's harder to reach lethal dose. there are times when fluoride level would be higher - if concentration given was over 1.5 MAC - with methoxyflurane, changes in signs of depth of anesthesia are more subtle, so it's easy to give more than an animal needs -this raises fluoride level. also if procedure lasts longer, or if patient is obese (it's very fat soluble) more is produced. if patient is on drugs that stimulate microsomal enzymes, like phenobarbs, they are more efficient metabolizers. an old, fat dog with a pyometra and renal dysfunction, that's an epileptic on phenobarb, should not get methoxyflurane. there's one strain of rat that responds at the same levels as humans - Fisher something rat. gets renal failure at same level as humans. blood: gas solubility coefficient is about 12 or 13. that makes it a slower induction/recovery than halothane. it's the slowest of all. it's very soluble, lots is taken up, so induction and recovery are prolonged. ---end----